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Re: Quick thought of what you think.?

Postby Sniper_E » 18 Mar 2013, 16:25

No download on this yet. Still in developement. I only have the index and viewforum pages worked out so far, many templates left to get to. You can watch this style in it's developement if you want. Click on my Sig.
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Re: Quick thought of what you think.?

Postby Martin_K » 24 Mar 2013, 11:44

Pond Life wrote:This looks promising. A few of my members asked about a mobile app or style a while back so I tried the Artodia mobile style but they didn't like it, neither did I for that matter. Nobody used it, they preferred the Prosilver based full style. Your original mobile style worked well but it does look a bit dated now so I will be watching the development of this version with interest.


I like the Artodia mobile themes, but you are right that it so different from prosilver that many are not so comfortable with it.

So what is needed is a simplified version of prosilver, that is 'responsive', so can automatically scale effectively for any device, this is what prosilver should become eventually, if the phpBB design team can manage it. In the meantime this looks promising, but I would say for mobile devices lose as many icons as you can, and use font icon replacement, as these work particularly well on high res screens and mobiles.

Twitter Bootstrap provides a basic framework that is easy to work with and can produce responsive themes, though I understand the only person trying to do one with this has abandoned it.

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Re: Quick thought of what you think.?

Postby Martin_K » 24 Mar 2013, 12:01

Also I'd say it is time to abandon support for IE7, use CSS3, eg use colour gradients on buttons, stop using gif's to produce rounded corners, embrace CSS3, and all it offers, as long as it degrades nicely on older browsers. I am working on a project to produce a button set using CSS3 and font icon replacement, with the ultimate aim of removing all gifs from prosilver.

This will reduce http requests, make phpBB look and feel 'modern' (eg with three state buttons instead of the two you get with prosilver by default).

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Re: Quick thought of what you think.?

Postby Martin_K » 24 Mar 2013, 13:21

What I really meant to say was not 'abandon support for IE7', but to 'stop making design compromises for IE7'. If uses of earlier browsers don't get rounded corners, then so be it, they should upgrade.

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Re: Quick thought of what you think.?

Postby Martin_K » 25 Mar 2013, 14:24

"3.1.0 finally changed from image-round corners, to borderradius" from http://area51.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic ... 81&t=43149, so some modern css and html 5 being introduced in future versions.

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Re: Quick thought of what you think.?

Postby Sniper_E » 25 Mar 2013, 14:53

I use that in this revised mobile style for the cornere. What I would like to see is how to use gradient colors with css instead of using prosilver's gradient background images. But will that actually increase the load time on a mobile device? These images are pretty small in size.
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Re: Quick thought of what you think.?

Postby Stoker » 25 Mar 2013, 17:25

Martin_K wrote:"3.1.0 finally changed from image-round corners, to borderradius" from http://area51.phpbb.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=43149, so some modern css and html 5 being introduced in future versions.

The example you are linking to is about using a placeholder for the searchbox.
And the code is incorrect...

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Re: Quick thought of what you think.?

Postby Martin_K » 26 Mar 2013, 11:42

Sniper_E wrote:I use that in this revised mobile style for the cornere. What I would like to see is how to use gradient colors with css instead of using prosilver's gradient background images. But will that actually increase the load time on a mobile device? These images are pretty small in size.


It is all a combination of number of http requests (because there is a limit to the number of requests taken in parallel) and size of code. Once a gif is cached, or css is cached in the browser performance should be similar, speed is more of an issue for first visits to the forum, where nothing is cached in the browser.

Once the CSS is written it can be minimised, same as javascript, so this will help make it load quicker. The writing of efficient CSS is another subject I am only just aware of, but if you stick to a limited number of gradients, as part of the theme, then I would think it should beat the gifs on mobile devices.

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Re: Quick thought of what you think.?

Postby Martin_K » 26 Mar 2013, 14:21

This page gives a list of devices and browsers supporting CSS3 gradients:

http://caniuse.com/css-gradients

and I have found a great CSS Gradient Colour Generator: [url=http://www.colorzilla.com/gradient-editor/]Ultimate CSS Gradient Generator[/url],which allows a variety of effects, and shows how they will look on the older browsers.

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Re: Quick thought of what you think.?

Postby steve » 27 Mar 2013, 10:02

Mine will be better! Sorry Sniper your too old :lol:
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Re: Quick thought of what you think.?

Postby Sniper_E » 27 Mar 2013, 16:28

Isn't yours always better? At least that's what stoker said last night. :biteme:
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Re: Quick thought of what you think.?

Postby steve » 29 Mar 2013, 11:54

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