[ABD] BBMS - (Project Wyvern)

[Obsidian]

MOD title: Banninate Banner Management System - (Project is codenamed "Wyvern" for the version 1.0.x line)
MOD description: A banner management system, with reporting, a special logging system, user-submission for banners, etc.
Also includes own caching system independent of the phpBB3 cache system for query-less operation, except for DB updating or cache refreshing. Cache system will allow "Wyvern" to run on the forum without adding extra queries, except if Banner view count is enabled, in which case it's only one more query.
MOD version: 1.0.0 DEV
phpBB version: -null- Going to take a while to develop the code for it..

Development stage: DEV

MOD Format: MODX, most likely.

MOD download: None, it's in development, duh.

Credits: Myself, and House. House gets to do the frontend coding, I'm taking care of the backend and all the functions/methods.

[Obsidian]

A little note, the cache system is just about done, revised it once to make it more logical and efficient in operation...and that's mainly all that is done. XD

Working from the ground up, I guess.

[zippy]

Can't wait till this is released, great stuff

[Obsidian]

A few notes:

• Cache system is now done.
• Public support will not be provided for the MOD upon gold release.
• There will be NO upgrade support between the Alpha's, Beta's, and RC's for the MOD provided by the authors.

[momentum]

A few notes:

• Public support will not be provided for the MOD upon gold release.

Is that really meant to say upon or was "until" intended?

Craig.

[harmlessgoat22]

I would guess "until", cause the alternative does not make any sense Why would someone stop supporting it once it is released Gold?

[momentum]

My thoughts exactly....

Though from some of the MOD release topics on .com I sometimes wonder.

CRaig.

[Obsidian]

A few notes:

• Public support will not be provided for the MOD upon gold release.

Is that really meant to say upon or was "until" intended?

Craig.

I wrote correctly, that is upon, not until.

It's a personal thing, neither me nor House have the desire to answer the parade of idiot questions regarding this and that, the usual dumb support questions that are normally encountered for MODs. Support for the MOD during pre-gold stages will be technical only, in order to fix zee bugs that will eventually crop up (I've rewritten the Cache's _write method at least three times now just because I've spotted some mistakes, even, and that's before the thing's been assembled into semi-working order. It's not even typed up yet. )

Bug reports would be accepted and fixes released when we get the chance, but...aside from that, nil.

However, there are some sites that I know the owners of, so they'd get private support for the MOD. Maybe, if me and House are generous, we'll provide support occasionally.

I would guess "until", cause the alternative does not make any sense Why would someone stop supporting it once it is released Gold?

Time, and lack thereof.

OI! House, help me out here in explaining it.. /crack_whip++

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[drathbun]

A few notes:

• Public support will not be provided for the MOD upon gold release.

Is that really meant to say upon or was "until" intended?

Craig.

I wrote correctly, that is upon, not until.

Perhaps there is a bit of a language issue here, because what you wrote (twice now, so I assume that you meant it) means that means you won't provide support after the gold release. I would be surprised if that's what you really meant.

What I think you meant was that public support will not be provided for anything prior to the gold release. Public support will be provided once gold status has been attained. That is not uncommon, as many MOD authors are looking for only experienced board owners / coders to help test their MODs. But saying that you won't offer support once the gold version is released is a bit... backwards.

[House]

Nah, I'm sorry guys, but what he says is true. (Even if it sounds a bit... Um, twisted. )

Let me try and explain. Neither of us really have the time or interest required to answer the normal parade of support "questions" that inevitably come up in offering any MOD to the wider community. - Although my personal feelings about this stray from that of sTraTo's, and although I'm generally quite inclined to help people with things, there's a practicality issue here.

The primary focus is to create and maintain a working banner management device, and offer it back to the community for any and all who might make good use of it (however few that may be, given it's nature). And there will be additional documentation (more or less; but as needed) that should give the end user any more info on what's required or recommended for it's installation and implementation, set beside the standard MODx file..

So aside from handling bug reports, and code/design suggestions which we'll gladly accept (and definitely want ) during it's dev-cycle(s), there shouldn't be a large need for us to sit and give general support answers ("no, you need FTP access to get this working on your website - oh, FTP is...", for instance).

A few notes:

• Public support will not be provided for the MOD upon gold release.
• There will be NO upgrade support between the Alpha's, Beta's, and RC's for the MOD provided by the authors.

Now, there will be no upgrade support during the development cycle due to obvious reasons.

And there will be no general support upon and after it's gold release, but an upgrade path will be provided and supported thereafter.

What sTraTo alluded to in his reference to private support is indeed this very premise, whilst acknowledging more or less his own prior commitment. - Keep in mind that this was originally intended for private use by a single board (during it's initial conception), but an incident occurred which redirected any plans for it, leaving it dead in the water unless we do it this way.


Essentially, he's busy being just out of high school, without regular access to a computer, and I'm lending my hand to cover whatever I can of the project - likewise being stretched time-wise. Does anyone understand now? I hope so.. I can do this again but there's a free cookie in it for the first person to say yes! *dangles MOD-cookie

[Steve_B]

sTraTo and House, I can understand fully were you guys are coming from, after looking through the threads on phpBB.com to find what I want, I am sick of the dumb questions from users that are to lazy to do some homework on how to do things or so called "newbies" that need to have their hand held and also people who don't use the search function to find answers . I think that most of the mod authors must have the patience of saints, I would end up telling them they are either lazy or stupid that would not go down well.

So more power to you both for doing this, nobody learns if they don't try things

[igorw]

You could release the gold version on this site only. This site is aimed at modders, we don't even really allow "general support" here at all. And there's not SOOO many people here, either.

Strange concept, i must say.

[House]

Hey, don't ask me.



/me Slaps Ika. >X]

[momentum]

Although I fully understand the reasoning behind the decision (I still get queries on scripts I wrote more than 15 years ago) I wonder if even releasing something the author has no intention of supporting is a good idea™ at all.

As this discussion doesn't really belong here I'll leave it at that.

Craig.

[Obsidian]

You could release the gold version on this site only. This site is aimed at modders, we don't even really allow "general support" here at all. And there's not SOOO many people here, either.

Strange concept, i must say.

Hmm....we'll keep that in mind.

Keep in mind that this was originally intended for private use by a single board (during it's initial conception), but an incident occurred which redirected any plans for it, leaving it dead in the water unless we do it this way.

In fact, between then and now, it's gone from a MOD for just one board exclusive, to one that I'd release privately to a few select sites, to being a public release. People that get to use it ought to feel happy that they even get it, for if it weren't for that incident it would be minez and only minez.

*snags another cookie from House * NOM!