proSilver may be nice, web 2.0 with all the sexy rounded corners and all, but markup wise it is nowhere near semantic!
Lists such as categories, forums, and topics by nature are tabular data which is exactly what tables are made for, hence the name tables, however phpBB has insulted semantic designers such as myself by using completely improper markup to display content.
If anything they have made bandwidth usage and page rendering times higher (which is what table-less design is suppose to prevent) by completely destroying the style using markup such as definition lists to try to emulate what tables do.
Anyways this is just my view, they have just created more and more style bugs "trying" to be web 2.0, there is absolutely nothing wrong with using tables on tabular data, it is justified to use table-less markup on areas such as login, register, viewtopic, and faq. But to take this too far as to take tables out of justified areas is just stupidity at its worst.
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As a Web designer, I have done sitees with and with out tables, both using CSS. Depending on how something in coded, both cay either be really easy t edit, or a nightmare.
it all depends on how the page is coded.
So in a word, yes Evil, it could be.
it all depends on how the page is coded.
So in a word, yes Evil, it could be.
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Your entire view on what "tabular data" is appears to be a little mixed up, in computer science context a "list" is a single array of data without columns and only rows, however tables are lists with multiple columns, therefore the index and viewforum are body tabular data as they contain >1 columns.
See the following: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_%28computing%29
This is why the "dl" or "definition list" tag, is only suppose to have one value per block.
See the following: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_%28computing%29
This is why the "dl" or "definition list" tag, is only suppose to have one value per block.
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Even so they can display multiple definitions for each title doesnt mean they should within semantics a definition value is to be used to define its title however this is not happening, and HTML just as any other computer programming and markup language is set by the rules of computer science.
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